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Post by art on Dec 11, 2005 4:18:48 GMT 3
I found this board last night and hoped top get an unbiased view of what’s going on in the district. I was sorely disappointed. It seems everyone including the administrator is just slap happy that the super is gone. No one has addressed the money the new members have wasted to get revenge. If the super was so bad, why didn’t they fire her? No one cares that garza and amaya are in this for themselves and couldn't care less about helping students. I know both people and believe me when I say…those of you that voted for them will regret it.
I’m not a fan of the mendoza brothers or of the now ex super, but things will not get better as most of you hope. If you thought Dr A was a bully you ain’t seen nothing yet. With amaya and garza pushing their substantial weight around things will get worse very soon. These two people are school yard bullies with no brains. They will make their mark on this district and it won’t be pretty. That poor interim is in for a long ugly administration. If I were the new super I’d rather deal with 10 more loca galarza’s then those two buffoons.
Be careful what you wish for…you might not like what you get.
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Post by FT on Dec 11, 2005 5:17:53 GMT 3
So are you saying "Better the evil you know than the evil you don't"? I've seen this administration at work, and I've seen Garza and Amaya as adminitrators. I've worked under them all. Garza and Amaya want what is good for the district. Atkinson wanted what was good and easy for herself and her cronies. Make no doubt about it, times will be changing for the better.
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Post by Newbler on Dec 11, 2005 7:11:58 GMT 3
I can't WAIT till Boots gets a gander at this one. ;D The admin has views and has voiced them. It's not his fault everyone here tends to agree. Most people are aware of this forum and were more than welcome to speak up. The only time anyone is edited or removed from these forums is if someone is being outright ugly or picking on Ford.  Welcome and I hope to see some good debate out of you when Boots comes around. Good luck. |
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Post by art on Dec 11, 2005 8:59:54 GMT 3
LT???
If you’ve really worked under these two men then you must know I’m telling the truth. I can only assume you are lying because if you have truly worked under these two men you know they are not in it for the children or the district.
garza would never have run for a seat in his life had the old super not reassigned him. That much he admits.
amaya!!!!! Please. He’s never done anything for anyone but himself.
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Post by art on Dec 11, 2005 9:05:51 GMT 3
Newbler…
I won’t stick around and be attacked. I love and live in Los Fresnos and I know that tides change. Again….I wasn’t a big fan of the old super but I’d much rather have her running the district then the two men we have on the board now.
These two men will show their true colors soon enough and soon this board will be demanding their defeat. Mark my words. Get ready for PUB like theatrics and shenanigans.
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Post by Freddy Garcia on Dec 11, 2005 9:40:01 GMT 3
To Art:
I have worked in this district for many years, in fact I worked with each one of these men. I would much rather work for these men than the supreme leader of the world ex sup. She stifled all ideas and if you crossed her, your name was placed on the list to send you packing. By the way, the super is the one that handles all day to day activities. The board can only approve or disapprove what the super brings to them. Please let them find someone who will allow the flow of ideas and will bring an atmosphere that doesn't involve fear tactics. I want to see what our students, teachers, administrators and community can do without the Queen of fear.
I am looking forward to the future of Los Fresnos. I want the us vs them mentality to go away. I would like to see the 4-3 board to find someone that a 7-0 board can agree upon. We need to stop the bickering and look for the solutions. I was at the last board meeting when they name Mr. Salazar the interim Super. I made it a point to shake the hand of each and every board member and especially Mr. Salazar. He needs our community to support him right now. We need to join together in Unity. Instead of complaining and throwing mud let's find the common ground. If we do not, Los Fresnos is doomed for failure.
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Post by Freddy Garcia on Dec 11, 2005 10:01:17 GMT 3
By the way, On the issue of firing the ex sup, This is a lady who had her attorney with her most of the time. It would have cost the district a lot more money had the board tried to go that direction. (Even with a rock solid case for removal) There would have been a legal fight I can guarentee... The method the board chose was most likely the only way to remove her from power at this time. On the complaint of too much money, If she was truly for the kids of Los Fresnos she would have stepped aside with a much smaller settlement. I hope the district can save some money with some central office consolidations in the future and a study of personnel in the District. I do hope that more of the districts money actually makes it to the campuses. The schools budgets for supplies have decreased dramatically over the last few years. The administration will deny this due to the manipulated finances, but I have seen this decrease personally.
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Post by Newbler on Dec 11, 2005 12:16:25 GMT 3
Newbler… I won’t stick around and be attacked. I love and live in Los Fresnos and I know that tides change. Again….I wasn’t a big fan of the old super but I’d much rather have her running the district then the two men we have on the board now. These two men will show their true colors soon enough and soon this board will be demanding their defeat. Mark my words. Get ready for PUB like theatrics and shenanigans. I assure you that you will not be attacked and I beg that you stay. All anyone will do here is post well thought out and educated posts on why she had to leave. All I expect of you after attacking the forum population in general is to defend your position. Don’t be your typical supporter and slam the forum and then run thinking it’ll make a difference. Support your opinion in the face of adversity. You have stated the new face of the administration will do more harm than good. I beg of you to tell us how. You have opened this can of worms so I expect you to defend the position. You say you live in and love the town of Los Fresnos. Prove it and explain to us how the new administration is worse than the last. No one will attack you but be d**n sure you can prove your point or you’ll look like a fool. I’m happily awaiting your response or retreat. I don’t really care which you decide on. |
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Post by FT on Dec 11, 2005 17:09:02 GMT 3
LT??? If you’ve really worked under these two men then you must know I’m telling the truth. I can only assume you are lying because if you have truly worked under these two men you know they are not in it for the children or the district. garza would never have run for a seat in his life had the old super not reassigned him. That much he admits. amaya!!!!! Please. He’s never done anything for anyone but himself. LT? I'm sorry, what's that? Lying? Assume all you like. I have the facts straight. Garza was NEVER reassigned. He resigned his position for reasons he shared with his coaching staff and none others. I am in the inside looking out. I can say when things were good and bad. I have worked under Amaya as an asst principal, Garza as a head coach, and under Atkinson as sup. Coach Garza and Amaya ran a tight ship. The sup ran a tight PR campaign. Her picture was everywhere. As far as people doing what was best for themselves, if the sup was in it for the kids, she wouldn't have accepted the full amount of the buyout. She really did what was good for the district and kids there.  Now, Art, you way you are leaving so you won't be attacked. Nobody here is attacking. Stay and debate/discuss your points. |
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Post by TEAM FALCON on Dec 11, 2005 19:12:02 GMT 3
Newsflash everyone.
I ran a IP pattern program on "ART" and it turn out that the IP address is located in Brownsville.
So much for "love and live in los fresnos".
I knew something was fishy when someone who "supposedly" lives in Los Fresnos comes in here and doesn't see why the current board got rid of the EX-super.
Nice try "ART".
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Post by oldboots on Dec 11, 2005 23:22:18 GMT 3
Well boys, you did a hell of a job with old Art. I'm proud of you. Newbler, Admin and the rest of the crew...you almost bring tears to my eyes...ya'll are a dadgummed wrecking crew..Sorry I was gone for so long...you see, I laughed my a** off at Fridays meeting and had to run to the proctologist on Saturday to have it sewn back on. Those grunting Mendozas just put me in the mood to laugh....now, where's Art......
Well little man, you got my attention when you referred to Galarza as la "loca"...everyone who knows Adela Garza and her gang of thugs knows that this is their tender term for Galarza...so already we know where its coming from. Incidentally, I have heard Galarza's term for Adela and I like it. Remind me to tell you about the time that Galarza tried to have Garza arrested for harass and when the constable asked Galarza if Garza was harassing her, Galarza said, "no, "har ass" is too big....." heh, heh, heh....
Now, Art, why in the world would you say that you live and love in Los Fresnos, are you the town gigolo... the only person I've heard attempt to express themselves in such a flowery, fluorescent and contrived way is that basketfull of fruit, Gary Gray....could it be, hmmm...maybe, maybe not...
As for working with Amaya and Garza, how could this be so...was Art a coach and then became an administrator or teacher or was he/she a coach when Amaya and Garza were both coaches....or perhaps he worked under Garza when Garza worked in BROWNSVILLE and then just lied for the pure sake of lying about Amaya...and what is this stuff about PUB isn't that in BROWNSVILLE...
Bottom line... this weasel's intent was to question support for Amaya and Garza and threw in Galarza for good measure. What did we learn from our years of terror with Atkinson...that's right it... divide and conquer and throw all the opposition into question...make them look bad, don't say exactly what it is that they did or didn't do but plant the seed of doubt.
Did we learn nothing from the smear campaign that was run against Galarza, didn't some of you people of Los Fresnos vote for the Mendozas not on what you knew about Galarza and her voting record but because of the trash carried by Gary Gray and Mike Mendoza...have we forgotten so quickly. If you are forgetting, then you are ripe for a re-capture.
We can never, never forget...and we will never know the depths to which this little core group will sink. And if we think that it is not a group then we need to put our heads in a bucket of cold water, quick...Remember, Sylvia has sisters and a scary little group of well wishers from Olmito and Las Yescas and the little coven that lives behind Laureles Elementary. Are you forgetting Los Fresnos?
Art, you got caught...now 'fess up...who paid you to do it, I have a pretty good idea...but since you think that you are being attacked and are not aware of enough facts to defend your indefensible position, then be a good little man or woman and get the h*** away and stay the h*** away....you and the vermin that you consort with are not welcome here. Do you think that we don't know that it will take us years to remove the stench of rats and thingyroaches from our town? What stench, Art? Why the stench and stink that you and your party left behind when you scurried out of town like the brave little rats that you are...can't wait till the rest of you jump the ship...like that crew of "girlsfriends" that are the assistant superintendents and please don't forget Sherry....
oldboots
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Post by oldboots on Dec 12, 2005 2:49:16 GMT 3
Merry Christmas,
You are absolutely correct...but let's not forget that while the xsupt. got paid for the 1 and 1/2 years she had on her contract, 1/2 year was owed to Texas Education Agency. That is why it may be a little steep for some but let's take a step back and remember how we got into this little problem. Do the names Mendoza, Vallado, Abrego, Cortez, Argullin and Guajardo ring a bell? These are the Los Fresnos loving human beings who extended Sylvia P.'s contract and gave her raises even when they saw that the district had a one way ticket to hell in a handcart. Now who are the ones screaming that it is too much money...that's right, the abovenamed individuals...think about how we would have been rid of her last June if these yahoos had only done what was right and just....
But something doesn't make sense....when Argullin and Guajardo left the Board they despised Vallado, Mendoza and Abrego and the feeling was mutual...what inspired them to coalesce...what happened that nobody is saying....hmmm......oldboots
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Post by oldboots on Dec 12, 2005 3:09:41 GMT 3
Art,
Thank you for being so solicitous of our well-being here in Los Fresnos...I read your post several times and try as I might I found nothing but fluff and feathers...it was empty rhetoric designed to engender doubt and fear...you held forth nothing of substance. After much attention and concentration to this matter, I have come up with the only plausible solution to this situation...you posted this meaningless drivel with the wrong party...you were looking for the famous and most reputable "losfresnosyellowrag" and got lost in your smoke and mirrors. Surely that had to be it because if you read Teamfalcon daily, you would know that most of the members of this site are rational human beings who are Los Fresnos proud and not easily taken in by "art"ful dodgers.... time to saddle up and leave town cowboy.......oldboots
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Post by Freddy Garcia on Dec 12, 2005 4:59:09 GMT 3
Just a note to the supporters of change. We need your presence and words at this Monday's board meeting. We need to show our support for Mr. Salazar and the the four board members that have started the return of our schools to the people of Los Fresnos. The Meeting starts at 6:00 with Public comments. I am sure that the Dr. A supporters will try to blast the board for wasting taxpayer money. I hope all that feel this was a wise decision will be there.
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Post by bubba10 on Dec 12, 2005 5:29:47 GMT 3
All I can say is
Please allow me to introduce myself
I’m a man of wealth and taste
I’ve been around for a long, long year
Stole many a man’s soul and faith
And I was ’round when jesus christ
Had his moment of doubt and pain
Made d**n sure that pilate
Washed his hands and sealed his fate
Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name
But what’s puzzling you
Is the nature of my game
Dang it! Just found out the Stones did that one.
Those that have sold their soul's don't care much about right and wrong. Often, they don't even know that they have even made the sale. To them, it is more about, what will make them more powerful, more influential, and they will do it in the name of what is right and the best for all of us.
They will do their best to convince others that they are working for the latter rather than the former. Sadly, they probably believe it.
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Post by oldboots on Dec 12, 2005 6:16:56 GMT 3
Los Fresnos,
make sure that you go to the board meeting tomorrow...as we all know, because we have been there before, Atkinson supporters will be out in droves...one more time they will attempt to make the district believe that they speak for everyone because they are out in force...what they don't know is that we know that they shoot their entire cannon every meeting...
...an Atkinson supporter once said that if they didn't have the support of the entire community then the entire community would be out to show their non-support of Atkinson... It is odd reasoning, but passes a weird sort of litmus test. They know everyone who is in support of Atkinson but every new face is one that they will suppose is in support of the current four and new acting supt....we let the previous four down by not being there every meeting to lend support, let's not let this happen again...see you tomorrow
I ready to support Mr. Gonzalo Salazar...It pleases me to know that this board did not at any time consider any of the harpies that are currently sitting as assistant superintendents for the position of interim....already these boys are showing the community that they are a thinking board.
And here's a news bulletin, if you think that this will ever be a united board, don't hold your breath....if this board does everything that the Mendozas and Abrego want, then it will be a united straight 7 vote...but if this board acts with integrity and in the best interests of the district and students then for sure it will remain a 4 to 3 vote. And you know, in the final analysis, who cares if its 7 to 0 or 4 to 3 as long as business gets done. I've had enough of "let's get together, yah, yah, yah"...it's not going to happen until you get 7 equally intelligent and dedicated people on the board and until that happens, its a no go...so we need to start now campaigning against those two, you know...Eddie Abrego and his ego....heh, heh, heh....oldboots
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Post by TEAM FALCON on Dec 12, 2005 6:23:24 GMT 3
I'm confussed, what are the EX supers supporters trying to do? I mean, what are they hoping happens by showing their support to a person that no longer works for the district??
Do they just like the attention?
I'll be there.
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Post by oldboots on Dec 12, 2005 6:25:17 GMT 3
bubba 10,
I've got that list of names for you if your interested, but with your being an astute sort and all, I imagine you have them tacked to the wall next to your computer...keep 'em coming old son....oldboots
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Post by Freddy Garcia on Dec 12, 2005 7:18:26 GMT 3
Get there early so there is no room left for the opposition. We need to fill the room....Supporters need to come out of the shadows and get involved. Find out what is really happening. Listen and watch how the board works. See who knows what they are doing and who doesn't have a clue. It is time to speak up and not let the ex sups clan tear the board apart. I have been quiet for too long. I came to the conclusion to speak loudly when they decided not to give Mr. Salazar and the new board a chance to show what they can do for our District. Enough is enough!!!
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Post by lfrrgv on Dec 12, 2005 18:24:10 GMT 3
What time is the meeting tonite?
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Post by oldboots on Dec 13, 2005 5:41:33 GMT 3
Well now Los Fresnos,
the board meeting did not go up in flames like an attic full of bottle rockets...in fact, it went rather smoothly. Other than 2 leftover Sylvia supporters who presented at open forum things went pretty smoothly...why you might ask...because Sylvia P. Atkinson and Nick Vallado are absent and are not feeding fires on the board. Before you start thinking that Abrego, Mendoza and Mendoza are trying to unite with the board, let's be honest...they no longer have Sylvia to follow and are too stupid to strike out on their own so they have to sit still. If anybody starts thinking that those three are doing anything for the good of the district, please have a bucket of cold water ready and begin ducking your head at will....buenas noches oldboots
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Post by 9nlength on Dec 14, 2005 20:11:23 GMT 3
I think the Atkinsons cronies are running around like chickens with their heads cutt off and trying to figure out how they can save their jobs. They are trying to push whatever buttons (Juan Mendoza) they can to save themselves.
The finance department should be audited since the administration has changed. A word of advice is to have a different audit firm perform the audit since we have not changed them for a few years now and not to mention they are from Brownsville. Atkinson, Jorge and Rosemary have become a little to comfortable with our current auditors. It is good professional practice to change your external auditors every two to three years to keep an independent relationship. How long has the District had the same external auditors? Hmmmmmmm....only about 5 years or more....makes one wonder.
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Post by oldboots on Dec 14, 2005 20:41:30 GMT 3
I agree with you that we need an external audit but there are several types...the one that we have with Patillo and Brown is pretty standard and should remain but I believe that you are referring to a TASB audit or the like. It should however, be kept completely out of the hands of administration and be reported directly to the Board...remember the audit that Atkinson had the Board pay for when she first came on board? Everything was reported solely to her and she told the firm what the focus was to be. She then turned around and used it to get rid of Lorene Villareal and stack upper administration with executives. If I remember correctly, she came to the board with a chicken**** story about the auditing firm recommending that she get rid of the two assistant superintendents and putting in 5 executive assistants (at the same pay as an asst supt., do the math) because they would be closer and more accessible to her...hoo boy...were they ever right...heh, heh, heh.....oldboots
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Post by FT on Dec 14, 2005 23:32:15 GMT 3
remember the audit that Atkinson had the Board pay for when she first came on board? Everything was reported solely to her and she told the firm what the focus was to be. She then turned around and used it to get rid of Lorene Villareal and stack upper administration with executives. If I remember correctly, she came to the board with a chicken**** story about the auditing firm recommending that she get rid of the two assistant superintendents and putting in 5 executive assistants (at the same pay as an asst supt., do the math) because they would be closer and more accessible to her...hoo boy...were they ever right...heh, heh, heh.....oldboots I remember that...talking about "streamlining" the chain of command. In other words, stack the upper admin with cronies and yes men. |
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Post by 9nlength on Dec 15, 2005 1:29:08 GMT 3
I did not know that Atkinson had an audit done when she came on board. What firm or agency performed the Audit for her? I was refering to the District's external auditors, Patillo and Brown. They have been the external audtors for the District for over 5 years. Again if you refer to the TEA website or GAAP you will find that it recommends that district's change extenal auditors every 2 to 3 years to keep an independent status. Cheaper auditors are not always best!
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Post by oldboots on Dec 15, 2005 20:46:46 GMT 3
They're not cheaper, but they certainly are good and they have no ties to any of Sylvia P's cronies in Brownsville. In fact, I believe that one of them is going to challenge Judge Hinojosa for the county judgeship...and we know how tight Sylvia and the Judge are.
As for the audit, yes Sylvia had one conducted 3 and a half years ago because she was screaming that Eliseo Ruiz was an idiot, that he had no business running a district and d*** near came close to calling him a liar, a cheat and a scalawag...so... in come the auditors of her choosing and followed her lead to the letter. They presented to the Board and had Vallado preening and cooing with Sylvia. Galarza began to question him on the reliability of the instruments used and he tried to jump down her throat...after she spit him out or whatever was left of him he began to back pedal and say that he had been hired to conduct an audit and these were his results. A few days later, Lorene and George were removed as Asst Supts and replaced by 5 executive cabinet members and the heavy salary payments began. Then these 5 had to have secretaries and they also had to have directors placed under them and on and on. Instead of having one asst. supt. overseeing all of the curriculum they hired 2 executives to oversee curriculum, one for the elementary and one for the secondary.
So, you can see where most of our money has been going, certainly not to the classroom or the teachers...it was for upper level admins. and their meals because everyday was a working breakfast and lunch and the district picked up the tab...and don't think it was from Stars, they would send the secretary to Luby's or Tony Roma's or Bennigan's to pick up their lunches. Sometimes they would go to the Island for a 3 or 4 hour lunch, kinda like they did when Adela got a new Suburban and she picked everybody up for lunch and drove them to the Island and they never came back to work.
As far as the name of the corporation who conducted the initial audit, I cannot recall but you can request a copy of the entire audit under the public information act, expect it to take approximately 10 working days and they will probably charge you 5 to 10 cents per page. If you should access a copy, I would be interested in the highlights as it was hidden from the public almost immediately.
Merry Christmas and Happy Hunting, Oldboots
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Post by lfrgv on Dec 17, 2005 0:36:21 GMT 3
Wow is right,
This doesn't sound like local district practices
it almost seems that im reading a story from
the Sapranos, or the Gotties
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Post by 9nlength on Dec 23, 2005 1:29:59 GMT 3
Sorry Old Boots but I have to disagree with you on changing our external auditors...it is very important that we change them every two to three years....
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Post by oldboots on Dec 23, 2005 4:29:03 GMT 3
9,
You don't have to disagree, you choose to disagree...and a recommendation is just that, a recommendation...
But, I'm not getting twisted up over Patillo and Brown, its pretty standard, the one I'm interested in is the big independent audit (should the Board elect to hire an auditing company other than TASB; I feel that TASB sides too much with administration and not enough with the school boards) where the Board shares with the auditing company the areas of particular interest to the Board, i.e. being very top heavy in the area of upper level administration, costs and ensuing savings if there was to be a redistribution of the top brass...that one will send me into an Irish Setter freeze....we can only hope...
Not to change the subject, but have you noticed how quiet things are? It's incredible the effect that a respected leader will have on a place...it's almost better than last year's snow...
well 9, I wish you and yours the most joyous of Christmases and as a friend of mine says, "everybody tank up on the eggnog and rumballs, you only see 'em once a year".
By the way, I received a rumcake today that was soaked in rum for so long I was near afraid to light up a cigar after I ate a slice....the rum fumes alone were enough to bring a grown man to his knees....and I want to kiss the hems of the ladies who fixed it...so if you see a flash... its not a star in the East or Santa Claus...its me shootin' over Los Fresnos.....heh, heh,heh
Well buenas noches, I'm sneakin' my rumcake to the barn and crankin'up Bob Wills and Patsy Cline...
oldboots
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Post by lfsupporter on Dec 29, 2005 8:54:14 GMT 3
Yep. Sylvia requested a very expensive audit and did tell them what she wanted to come out of it. One of the guys even warned Lorene Villarreal that she was going after her. And...he was right!!! Then she began delegating her work to her buddies. Oh yes! 3-4 working lunches with her pals plus one other S. Stout. Never took Jorge though because she couldn't play Satin's daughter around him. How does anyone feel about Sylvia giving A. Lopez that bigh raise this year and a new title? Last I remember he had a campus rated "Acceptable" then Sylvia comes around and promotes him after Cynthia and her become fast friends. Even though Sylvia got a big chunk of cash she can't feel good knowing that Eagle Pass, Brownsville nor Los Fresnos want her! Her reputation has been established here in the Valley area. No go. Take your pals and girl friend and hit the road. Salazar is nothing like "Butch" and the district will move forward. My friends and relatives are in heaven and at peace now. Boy people are whistling and skipping around and not afraid to make a little noise.
Happy New Year!
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