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Post by TEAM FALCON on Dec 12, 2006 22:07:23 GMT 3
I remember 3 years Scott Ford was given 2 guarantee years with an option for a 3rd year.
This year was the 3rd year.
What's going to happen?
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Post by Babaloo on Dec 13, 2006 2:51:16 GMT 3
What should happen, is LF renew his contract because he has instillled something in those kids other than athletics which is character education...these kids will remember that for the rest of their lives and something else it has been a while since the LF community has been somewhat united...4500 hundred people driving to Victoria...that is awesome......but also from a different perspective...what if Ford wants to leave...he should still have our blessing...and the clock starts now.................
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Post by Newbler on Dec 13, 2006 3:00:39 GMT 3
he has instillled something in those kids other than athletics which is character education Ford could go 0-10 for the next 3 years and I'd still want him around if he continued his trend of making good men out of good boys. Ford will stay around from what I hear.
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Post by TEAM FALCON on Dec 13, 2006 5:48:44 GMT 3
THESE ARE JUST MY THOUGHTS AND OPINIONS.
Unfortunately whatever decision is made will be REALLY unfair to the person who does not get it.
And who ever becomes AD will deserves it, just like the one who does not get it.
My position is driven by VERY SELFISH reasons. And based on this hobby of mine, I'm sure you can guess what my position is.
Solution? Find a way to make them both $tay. Would Woods stay with a nice raise without being an AD? Or does she want to be "AD" with a small raise. If Woods wants Both AD and $$, that could be an issue because Ford should get a raise.
The AD/Head Football Coach position is a completely different animal. $$ talks. And right now Coach Ford is holding all the cards.
The discussion should start with this in mind. BOTH DESERVE IT. Now go from there.
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Post by lilbirdie on Dec 14, 2006 1:56:49 GMT 3
I do not see this, decision on AD, etc. on the posted agenda for tomorrow's meeting? What has Woods done to deserve being AD? I don't see how you compare the caliber of coaching or administration between Ford and Woods. While football is excellent, volleyball and girls basketball are only average.
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Post by TEAM FALCON on Dec 14, 2006 6:01:25 GMT 3
Loyalty.
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Post by falcon89 on Dec 14, 2006 7:33:41 GMT 3
Im also a bias person but I cannot see Woods and Ford making the same amount of pay..Ford pays himself with the football ticket sales...Come on folks, do you think 100 people at a volleball/softball,etc game brings revenue to offset a salary for Girls AD? Texas is FOOTBALL and LF can becoming to be one of those distinguish towns...People in LF need to stand up and give Ford that HUGE pay raise that he truly deserves...I surely hate to see our kids lose out on good coaching for poor decision making from admin.
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Post by Newbler on Dec 14, 2006 9:11:04 GMT 3
I'm sorry I feel the same way about Woods that I feel about Chaffin. She was coaching GYM back when I was in like 7th grade but if it comes down to her or Ford the Homer loyalty is gonna fail. Our program has come to far and has too far to go to let it go.
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Post by lilbirdie on Dec 14, 2006 18:14:12 GMT 3
We are all measured by our performance in whatever job we hold. Teachers and coaches included. We can all be the most loyal employees in the world, but if our performance doesn't measure up to an excellent stanard we're all replaceable. Look at BISD. I'm sure there are a lot of loyal coaches, but they have to perform and unfortunately coaches are judged at all levels by W-L record. There's just not much excitement or enthusiam in the girls program. Look at the girls program in Harlingen and compare the girls program at LF with the boys program. Boys football and basketball are very good. You can't say the same for the girls program.
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Post by TEAM FALCON on Dec 14, 2006 20:39:45 GMT 3
I agree.
I understand the AD/HC job assignments, appointments, hiring process is a completely different animal and I also think Ford should get the AD/HC job with the pay.
I'm not sure what I'm trying to say......
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Post by Newbler on Dec 15, 2006 4:56:46 GMT 3
It'd be nice to see Ford get a nice raise and the AD position and then see Woods get a hefty raise to thank her for her loyalty.
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Post by TEAM FALCON on Dec 15, 2006 6:32:44 GMT 3
It looks like Ford is staying.
Anyone have similar information??
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Post by alexacool on Dec 19, 2006 20:30:55 GMT 3
i think he should stay!
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Post by oldboots on Dec 20, 2006 7:54:13 GMT 3
Why are all of you people worrying? You knew that Ford was not going anywhere, he said he wants to settle down and raise his family here...you all know that Virginia Miller was left with Dawn Hall's hellhole at the highschool and is trying to clean it up...you all know that she loves football (and all sports) and is very supportive of athletics...you know Miller is now concerned about keeping academics as high as the interest in football...you know that B. Woods and Ford make a good administrative/athletic team and you know that because the kids love Ford, believe in him and will perform for him, there is not a person on the Board or community who would not do whatever is in their power to keep him.... Sorry folks, I've been reading and studying and following the conversations but I still don't know what the tempest was about...Did anybody really think that Los Fresnos would throw Ford out on his ear? But, don't forget LF, he's a young coach, he may get a more lucrative offer, he may want to move where he can position himself to hop into college coaching or higher....we want him to stay for the sake of our children....but if he needs to move on to further his career then we should be the first ones to support him in his choices and the responsibility to his family. As for me, I would like to see him stay, but I have seen my own children move away in order to follow their dreams....let's keep him as long as we can but let him go when he feels he needs to leave us..... I don't know much, but I do know that he has community support and the boys' undying loyalty and as long as he has that, no matter what his season record is, he'll be welcome at old LF.......buenas noches Scott........oldboots
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Post by kathy78566 on Dec 20, 2006 18:09:32 GMT 3
Well said Oldboots!!! Why are all of you people worrying? You knew that Ford was not going anywhere, he said he wants to settle down and raise his family here...you all know that Virginia Miller was left with Dawn Hall's hellhole at the highschool and is trying to clean it up...you all know that she loves football (and all sports) and is very supportive of athletics...you know Miller is now concerned about keeping academics as high as the interest in football...you know that B. Woods and Ford make a good administrative/athletic team and you know that because the kids love Ford, believe in him and will perform for him, there is not a person on the Board or community who would not do whatever is in their power to keep him.... Sorry folks, I've been reading and studying and following the conversations but I still don't know what the tempest was about...Did anybody really think that Los Fresnos would throw Ford out on his ear? But, don't forget LF, he's a young coach, he may get a more lucrative offer, he may want to move where he can position himself to hop into college coaching or higher....we want him to stay for the sake of our children....but if he needs to move on to further his career then we should be the first ones to support him in his choices and the responsibility to his family. As for me, I would like to see him stay, but I have seen my own children move away in order to follow their dreams....let's keep him as long as we can but let him go when he feels he needs to leave us..... I don't know much, but I do know that he has community support and the boys' undying loyalty and as long as he has that, no matter what his season record is, he'll be welcome at old LF.......buenas noches Scott........oldboots
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Post by TEAM FALCON on Dec 20, 2006 18:11:52 GMT 3
I too have always believed that Coach Ford has bigger dreams in terms of coaching. There is nothing wrong with that, we all have dreams, plans. We must enjoy the time that he's here whether it's for 2 more years or the next 20 years. What Coach Ford has done to our community and children since his arrival will always be remembered and it's known around the area. Heck just the other day, I was talking to a co-worker about HS football and he made the comment, "Los Fresnos is ALWAYS good" and it nearly made me tear up because we aaaaaaaaaall remember those years when we would suit up every week knowing we had a slim chance of victory and we were scheduled as the homecoming game team. I hope that Coach Ford decides to make Los Fresnos his home for the next 20 years. But if he would like to coach College Football then I would like to see him get a shot. I can already see it. Coach Ford coaching his son at QB for the Falcons. Heck his son is already ready..here he is in his QB pose!
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Post by elizabeth34 on Apr 12, 2007 8:28:49 GMT 3
Okay enough is enough. Woods has been here for 20 years. Every time you need help, you find her at school. Ford is cute but pleeeeze. He is either working out or gone after athletics. He doesn't go to meetings. He doesn't help with students after football is over. He doesn't help kids with scholarships. Yes. You heard it. He is not responsible for the springers getting scholarships. He will be here a year or two and be gone. All the coaches in the valley call Woods for help. Helms, Rodriguez etc. Pleeze . enough!!!!!!!!!!! Give Woods credit where credit is due. Does everything for our athletics and coaches. Doesn't throw tantrums and throw things around. So, for a month now I have heard that Ford is to be AD so why does the board act like it is a secret. He spreads rumors that he is going to apply for La Feria and Donna only to have the Valley Morning Star tell us that he wasn't even being considered but the board gives him a hefty raise and a hummer. Wow! No masters no administrative degree and a child and he rules. Cute kid and very articulate but please what about loyality?
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Post by TEAM FALCON on Apr 12, 2007 17:31:24 GMT 3
I understand where you're coming from.
The X factor is the fact that Coach Ford is the Head Coach of the football program.
We ALL know how that works.......
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Post by lilbirdie on Apr 12, 2007 23:57:08 GMT 3
In reply to e34, Ford is respected by all the athletes for his hard work, leadership, dedication to the kids he coaches and obviously results. Also, the same can be said for the assistant coaches he brought in. He doesn't just hire good ol' boys from the Valley--sorry that doesn't work anymore--look at BISD. The same cannot be said for Woods. I see Ford's vehicle at the school all the time. He's there early, late and on days the students aren't at school so you don't have all your facts right. Sounds like you have an ax to grind with Ford, but don't go around slamming the guy with only your opinion and no facts. If you judge all the coaches by results, I would put Ford up against anyone. Can't say the same for Woods--oh yes, but she is loyal.
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Post by falcon89 on Apr 13, 2007 3:05:36 GMT 3
Wow e34! You must have a crystal ball or something...Who is going to win the De La Hoya fight next month..I need to place a bet at Vegas!!
Birdie is right, you must have an ax on Coach Ford..He has my vote as he has proven to me and others that he cares.. Yes he could of left BUT he didnt.. I believe that is a choice that ALL American's have in this great country of ours.. The freedom to choose...And our district leaders chose the right path by given that man a well deserve contract..... Keep up the great work Coach...
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Post by elizabeth34 on Apr 13, 2007 3:22:21 GMT 3
No ax to grind guy just wish that life was fair. Crystal ball is not need when over a month ago some guys were saying that he would be the new AD because that position was coming up. Without a crystal ball to tell us so, it happened. Proven what? Played easier teams than before, had great athletes who have been on varsity for 3 years. Wonderful boys! Good guy, teaches respect, no doubt about that. But an AD has to be concerned about all sports for both boys and girls. Go to meetings. Help kids with scholarships. Boy do you work at the HS cuz you got the truck there all the time wrong. Don't get me wrong. Get your degrees. Open up to be aware that all sports are important to kids. Smile every now and then. Don't be so defensive. I bet even Ford would tell you who helps overall the most. As most have said he will be gone in a couple of years. Most kids love him and that is a good thing. Hope he doesn't leave them high and dry like before. Stay for a long while. A couple of winning years doesn't warrant a $100 thous salary and cutting someone out who is more qualified. Doesn't necessarily mean Woods. Man Helms is a great man too. Cool off. Remember no ax to grind just want fairness.
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Post by bubba10 on Apr 13, 2007 5:12:45 GMT 3
Hey elsbeth,
What is up? 100k salary and a hummer. Nice way to start rumors. I think it's closer to $85 and he's paying for his own vehicle. Where did you get the part about him not caring about girls' athletics? There's a lot of bitterness in those last two posts. Did you actually read what you posted on the first one before you hit the "enter" key? Why don't you just come out and say what you really want to say instead of throwing inuendos and accusations out there?
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Post by elizabeth34 on Apr 13, 2007 5:29:11 GMT 3
Who said girls sports. Sounds like you know more than I know...Just other sports. No Bub. Not $100 thous now! Later.... Gotta get $ for the position. I didn't start the hummer rumor it has been around and truthfully I didn't believe it. He has his good points I said. Don't get so defensive. If the kids are happy that's all that counts. But wouldn't it be nice if politics were left out of it all though.
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Post by bubba10 on Apr 13, 2007 5:45:15 GMT 3
from your post:
But an AD has to be concerned about all sports for both boys and girls.
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Post by bubba10 on Apr 13, 2007 5:54:08 GMT 3
Twice you've posted that someone else is being defensive. That's kind of interesting considering your list of inflamatory posts. A couple of interesting comments and these are your's:
Okay enough is enough. Woods has been here for 20 years. Every time you need help, you find her at school. Ford is cute but pleeeeze.
He is either working out or gone after athletics.
He doesn't go to meetings. He doesn't help with students after football is over.
He doesn't help kids with scholarships. Yes. You heard it. He is not responsible for the springers getting scholarships.
He will be here a year or two and be gone.
All the coaches in the valley call Woods for help. Helms, Rodriguez etc. Pleeze . enough!!!!!!!!!!!
the board gives him a hefty raise and a hummer. Wow! No masters no administrative degree and a child and he rules.
Played easier teams than before..
Get your degrees.,
A couple of winning years doesn't warrant a $100 thous salary
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Post by bubba10 on Apr 13, 2007 5:58:46 GMT 3
You should consider building a case for something rather than working at character destruction.
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Post by bubba10 on Apr 13, 2007 6:45:29 GMT 3
Sounds like you know more than I know...Just other sports. No Bub. Not $100 thous now! Later.... Gotta get $ for the position. I didn't start the hummer rumor it has been around and truthfully I didn't believe it. He has his good points I said. Don't get so defensive. If the kids are happy that's all that counts. But wouldn't it be nice if politics were left out of it all though. You know, when you post stuff like this. Just saying "I didn't believe it" doesn't negate the fact that you are throwing something nasty out there as if you may or may not know something. Extremely irresponsible.
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Post by falcon89 on Apr 14, 2007 3:40:13 GMT 3
Thanks Bubba! Well said. She needs to get her fact before accusing. That is what is wrong with society.....
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Post by truth be told on Oct 8, 2007 23:46:41 GMT 3
its funny how people pay for degrees....lots of people get degreees.....wich they use to argue for more money....but if someone is worth the money....they should be swindled into workin for cheaper...cuz they dont have the "degrees" if you can do the job and are succesful...then show me the money
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Post by TEAM FALCON on Oct 9, 2007 0:29:31 GMT 3
Huh?
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